AMD Ryzen 7 8700F vs AMD Ryzen AI Embedded P185 Comparison

Head-to-Head Benchmarks

The benchmark data shows a clear split between the AMD Ryzen 7 8700F and the AMD Ryzen AI Embedded P185. Across the 11 recorded head-to-head tests, the Ryzen 7 8700F wins 4, while the Ryzen AI Embedded P185 wins 7. However, the margins tell a more nuanced story than the win count alone.

The Ryzen 7 8700F secures its largest victory in data encryption, scoring 22117 against 19612, a 12.8% advantage. This is followed by random string sorting, where the 8700F posts 45425 versus 40557, a 12% lead. Extended instructions also favor the desktop part, with 28474 against 26544, a 7.3% gap. In data compression, the 8700F edges ahead by a narrow 1%, scoring 378160 versus 374429.

The Ryzen AI Embedded P185 counters with substantial wins in compute-heavy workloads. The largest margin appears in find prime numbers, where it scores 129 against 98, a 24% advantage. Integer math shows a 14.8% lead for the P185, with 117832 versus 100371. Physics tests favor the embedded chip by 12.4%, at 1772 against 1553. Floating point math delivers a 11.3% edge, 70587 versus 62629. The multithread test shows a smaller 2.9% lead for the P185, 31817 against 30893, and single-thread performance is nearly even, with the P185 ahead by 2.6% at 3977 versus 3872.

The average benchmark scores reinforce this split. The Ryzen 7 8700F holds an average score of 30746, placing it in the 82nd percentile of all CPUs. The Ryzen AI Embedded P185 posts a far higher average of 62839, placing it in the 93rd percentile. The nearest rivals confirm the positioning: the 8700F sits within 0.9% of the Intel Core i5-13600H and within 0.9% of the Intel Core Ultra 5 225T, while the P185 trades within 0.5% of the AMD Ryzen AI 9 PRO 465 and within 0.5% of the Intel Core Ultra 7 265HX.

The data indicates that the P185 is the stronger overall performer in raw compute, but the 8700F retains specific advantages in data handling and encryption workloads.

Architecture Differences

The two processors come from different architectural generations and target different market segments. The Ryzen 7 8700F uses the Zen 4 architecture with the Phoenix codename, built on a 4 nm process at TSMC. It belongs to the 8000 series and the Ryzen 7 generation. The Ryzen AI Embedded P185 uses a hybrid Zen 5 / Zen 5c design with the Gorgon Point codename, also on a 4 nm TSMC process, under the Ryzen AI Embedded generation.

The core configurations differ significantly. The 8700F provides 8 cores and 16 threads, while the P185 provides 12 cores and 24 threads. Clock speeds also diverge: the 8700F has a base clock of 4.10 GHz and a boost clock of 5.00 GHz, whereas the P185 has a much lower base clock of 2.00 GHz but a slightly higher boost clock of 5.10 GHz. The die sizes differ, with the 8700F at 178 mm² and the P185 at 233 mm². The 8700F lists 25,000 million transistors, while the P185 does not have a recorded transistor count.

Cache structures are not identical. The 8700F uses 64 KB of L1 per core and 1 MB of L2 per core, with 16 MB of shared L3. The P185 uses 80 KB of L1 per core and 1 MB of L2 per core, also with 16 MB of L3. The larger L1 per core on the P185 reflects the newer core design.

The P185 includes integrated graphics in the form of a Radeon 890M, while the 8700F has no integrated graphics. Memory support also differs: the 8700F supports DDR5 only, while the P185 supports both DDR5 and LPDDR5X. ECC memory is supported on the P185 but not on the 8700F. The memory bus is dual-channel for both, but memory bandwidth is higher on the P185 at 89.6 GB/s versus 83.2 GB/s.

PCIe connectivity differs as well. The 8700F provides Gen 4 with 20 lanes (CPU only), while the P185 provides Gen 4 with 16 lanes (CPU only). The 8700F has an unlocked multiplier, whereas the P185 does not. The socket types are entirely different: the 8700F uses AMD Socket AM5 for desktop, and the P185 uses AMD Socket FP8 for mobile.

Where Each One Wins

The Ryzen 7 8700F wins in workloads that favor its higher base clock and desktop-oriented design. Data encryption shows a 12.8% advantage, random string sorting a 12% advantage, and extended instructions a 7.3% advantage. Data compression is a narrow 1% win. These results suggest the 8700F handles memory-intensive data manipulation and instruction-set extensions more effectively.

The Ryzen AI Embedded P185 wins in workloads that scale with core count and modern core efficiency. Find prime numbers shows a 24% lead, integer math a 14.8% lead, physics a 12.4% lead, and floating point math an 11.3% lead. The multithread test gives it a 2.9% edge, and single-thread performance is a slight 2.6% win. The P185 also holds a higher average benchmark score, 62839 versus 30746, and a higher percentile ranking, 93rd versus 82nd.

The use-case split is therefore clear. The 8700F is better suited for workloads involving encryption, sorting, and instruction-heavy operations where its higher base clock delivers results. The P185 is better suited for compute-heavy parallel workloads, prime number calculations, integer and floating point math, and physics simulations, where its 12 cores and 24 threads provide the advantage.

Specification Differences

The recorded specification fields show several differences between the two processors.

• Cores: 8 (8700F) versus 12 (P185)
• Threads: 16 (8700F) versus 24 (P185)
• Base clock: 4.10 GHz (8700F) versus 2.00 GHz (P185)
• Boost clock: 5.00 GHz (8700F) versus 5.10 GHz (P185)
• TDP: 65 W (8700F) versus 28 W (P185)
• Socket: AMD Socket AM5 (8700F) versus AMD Socket FP8 (P185)
• Architecture: Zen 4 (8700F) versus Zen 5 / Zen 5c (P185)
• Codename: Phoenix (8700F) versus Gorgon Point (P185)
• Die size: 178 mm² (8700F) versus 233 mm² (P185)
• L1 cache per core: 64 KB (8700F) versus 80 KB (P185)
• L2 cache per core: 1 MB (both)
• L3 cache: 16 MB shared (8700F) versus 16 MB (P185)
• Memory support: DDR5 (8700F) versus DDR5, LPDDR5X (P185)
• Memory bandwidth: 83.2 GB/s (8700F) versus 89.6 GB/s (P185)
• ECC memory: false (8700F) versus true (P185)
• PCIe: Gen 4, 20 lanes (8700F) versus Gen 4, 16 lanes (P185)
• Integrated graphics: N/A (8700F) versus Radeon 890M (P185)
• Market segment: Desktop (8700F) versus Mobile (P185)
• Release date: 2024-03-31 (8700F) versus 2026-02-28 (P185)
• Multiplier unlocked: true (8700F) versus false (P185)
• Launch MSRP: $270 (8700F); no launch MSRP recorded for the P185

FAQ

Q: Which processor has more cores?

A: The AMD Ryzen AI Embedded P185 has 12 cores and 24 threads, while the AMD Ryzen 7 8700F has 8 cores and 16 threads.

Q: Which processor has the higher boost clock?

A: The AMD Ryzen AI Embedded P185 has a boost clock of 5.10 GHz, slightly higher than the 5.00 GHz boost clock of the AMD Ryzen 7 8700F.

Q: Does the AMD Ryzen 7 8700F have integrated graphics?

A: No, the integrated graphics field for the 8700F is listed as N/A. The AMD Ryzen AI Embedded P185 includes a Radeon 890M.

Q: Which processor supports ECC memory?

A: The AMD Ryzen AI Embedded P185 supports ECC memory. The AMD Ryzen 7 8700F does not.

Q: Which processor has the higher average benchmark score?

A: The AMD Ryzen AI Embedded P185 has an average benchmark score of 62839, compared to 30746 for the AMD Ryzen 7 8700F.

Q: In which benchmark does the AMD Ryzen 7 8700F show its largest win?

A: The 8700F shows its largest win in data encryption, scoring 22117 against 19612, a 12.8% advantage.

The Verdict

The data supports different choices for different workloads. The AMD Ryzen 7 8700F is a desktop processor with an unlocked multiplier, a 65 W TDP, and a launch MSRP of $270. It wins in data encryption, random string sorting, extended instructions, and data compression. Its higher base clock of 4.10 GHz and 20 PCIe Gen 4 lanes make it suitable for desktop builds where data manipulation and instruction-heavy tasks take priority. Its percentile ranking of 82 places it below the P185, but its specific benchmark wins are meaningful for those workloads.

The AMD Ryzen AI Embedded P185 is a mobile processor with 12 cores, 24 threads, a 28 W TDP, and ECC memory support. It wins in find prime numbers, integer math, physics, floating point math, multithread, and single-thread tests. Its average benchmark score of 62839 and 93rd percentile ranking indicate stronger overall compute performance. The inclusion of a Radeon 890M and support for both DDR5 and LPDDR5X memory make it a more integrated solution, though it has fewer PCIe lanes at 16 and no unlocked multiplier.

The recorded data indicates that the P185 is the stronger processor for parallel compute and math-heavy workloads, while the 8700F is the stronger processor for encryption, sorting, and extended instruction tasks. The choice depends on whether the workload favors the 8700F's clock-driven advantages or the P185's core-count and architecture advantages.