AMD Ryzen 7 170 vs AMD Ryzen AI Embedded P164 Comparison

Head-to-Head Benchmarks

The benchmark data presents a clear hierarchy between these two processors. The AMD Ryzen AI Embedded P164 wins 10 of the 11 recorded comparisons, while the AMD Ryzen 7 170 takes a single narrow victory. The overall average benchmark score for the Ryzen AI Embedded P164 is 52901, which places it in the 91st percentile of all CPUs. The Ryzen 7 170 averages 43689, sitting in the 88th percentile. That is a 21.1% gap in average score, a substantial margin that shows up consistently across individual workloads.

The largest single advantage for the Ryzen AI Embedded P164 comes in the find prime numbers test, where it scores 71 against the Ryzen 7 170's 49, a 31% lead. This workload is particularly sensitive to instruction efficiency and clock speed, and the data shows the newer part dominating. Extended instructions also favor the P164 heavily: 24193 versus 18107, a 25.2% difference. Physics simulation shows a 26.4% gap, with the P164 scoring 1210 against 890 for the Ryzen 7 170. These three workloads represent the clearest performance separation between the two chips.

The multithreaded score, which serves as a broad indicator of overall throughput, gives the P164 a 19.8% advantage. It records 25889 against 20760 for the Ryzen 7 170. Random string sorting follows a similar pattern: 34801 versus 27804, a 20.1% lead. Floating point math shows 55799 versus 44979, a 19.4% gap. Data compression, a workload that benefits from large caches and fast memory, gives the P164 a 327891 score against 265920, an 18.9% edge. Integer math is the closest of the larger gaps, with 87940 versus 79738, a 9.3% difference.

Single-thread performance is a critical metric for many real-world applications, and here the Ryzen AI Embedded P164 delivers 4029 against 3128 for the Ryzen 7 170, a 22.4% advantage. This matches the extended instructions result and suggests that the P164's higher boost clock of 5.00 GHz, combined with its 4 nm process, translates into a meaningful IPC and frequency uplift over the Ryzen 7 170's 4.75 GHz boost on 6 nm.

The Ryzen 7 170's only win comes in data encryption, where it scores 16078 versus 16055 for the P164. The margin is 0.1%, which is effectively a statistical tie. In practical terms, the two processors are functionally identical for this workload. Every other benchmark in the database shows the P164 ahead, often by double-digit percentages.

The nearest rival data in the database provides additional context. The Ryzen 7 170's closest competitors are the Ryzen 7 PRO 7745 at 43704, the Ryzen 7 260 at 43717, the Ryzen AI 9 465 at 43431, and the Ryzen AI Max PRO 385 at 43326. The Ryzen 7 170 sits within 0.8% of each of these, confirming that its performance level is well established within its segment. The Ryzen AI Embedded P164, by contrast, competes with the Ryzen 5 9500F at 52873, the Intel Xeon 634 at 52974, the AMD EPYC 7313P at 53206, and the Ryzen 9 7900X at 53288. The P164 trails the EPYC 7313P by 0.6% and the Ryzen 9 7900X by 0.7%, while leading the Ryzen 5 9500F by 0.1%. This places the P164 in a performance class that includes desktop and server parts with significantly higher power envelopes.

The Verdict

The data indicates that the AMD Ryzen AI Embedded P164 is the stronger processor in nearly every measurable category. Its average benchmark score of 52901 is 21.1% higher than the Ryzen 7 170's 43689. The percentile ranking confirms this: 91st for the P164 versus 88th for the Ryzen 7 170. For workloads that stress single-thread speed, extended instructions, physics, or prime number calculations, the P164 delivers advantages between 22.4% and 31%. The only area where the Ryzen 7 170 matches it is data encryption, where the 0.1% difference is negligible.

The Ryzen 7 170 does have one notable advantage in the recorded data: power consumption. Its TDP is 35 watts, compared to 28 watts for the P164. That means the P164 delivers higher performance while drawing less power, a combination that is unusual and worth emphasizing. The P164 also supports a wider range of memory types, including both DDR5 and LPDDR5X, while the Ryzen 7 170 supports only DDR5. Its memory bandwidth is higher as well: 89.6 GB/s versus 76.8 GB/s. The integrated graphics differ too, with the P164 using the Radeon 880M and the Ryzen 7 170 using the Radeon 680M.

The Ryzen 7 170 does have a larger L3 cache at 16 MB shared, versus 8 MB for the P164. However, the measured benchmark results show that this cache disadvantage does not prevent the P164 from winning the data compression test, which is often cache-sensitive. The P164 also uses a larger die at 233 mm² versus 210 mm², and it is built on a newer 4 nm process compared to 6 nm. The Ryzen 7 170 offers more PCIe lanes at 20 versus 16, both Gen 4.

For buyers choosing between these two, the performance data points clearly to the Ryzen AI Embedded P164. It wins 10 of 11 benchmarks, often by substantial margins, and does so at a lower TDP. The Ryzen 7 170 remains a capable processor, particularly for encryption-heavy tasks, but the recorded measurements show it trailing the P164 in every other category. The P164's closest rivals in the database include desktop-class parts like the Ryzen 9 7900X and server parts like the EPYC 7313P, which suggests it punches above its mobile segment classification.

FAQ

Q: Which processor has the higher average benchmark score?

A: The AMD Ryzen AI Embedded P164 has an average score of 52901, while the AMD Ryzen 7 170 scores 43689. The P164 also holds a higher percentile ranking at 91 versus 88.

Q: How large is the single-thread performance gap?

A: The Ryzen AI Embedded P164 scores 4029 in the single-thread test, while the Ryzen 7 170 scores 3128. That is a 22.4% advantage for the P164.

Q: Does the Ryzen 7 170 win any benchmark?

A: Yes. It wins the data encryption test with a score of 16078 versus 16055 for the P164, a 0.1% margin. This is the only benchmark where the Ryzen 7 170 comes out ahead.

Q: What is the difference in power consumption?

A: The Ryzen 7 170 has a TDP of 35 watts, while the Ryzen AI Embedded P164 has a TDP of 28 watts. The P164 delivers higher performance while drawing less power.

Q: Which processor has more L3 cache?

A: The Ryzen 7 170 has 16 MB of shared L3 cache, while the Ryzen AI Embedded P164 has 8 MB. Despite this, the P164 wins the data compression benchmark by 18.9%.

Q: What memory types does each processor support?

A: The Ryzen 7 170 supports DDR5 only, with a dual-channel memory bus and 76.8 GB/s bandwidth. The Ryzen AI Embedded P164 supports both DDR5 and LPDDR5X, also dual-channel, with 89.6 GB/s bandwidth.

Specification Differences

The Ryzen 7 170 and Ryzen AI Embedded P164 differ across nearly every specification field in the database. The Ryzen 7 170 has a base clock of 3.20 GHz and a boost clock of 4.75 GHz. The P164 has a base clock of 2.00 GHz but a higher boost clock of 5.00 GHz. The lower base clock on the P164 likely contributes to its lower 28 watt TDP, while the higher boost clock explains its single-thread advantage.

Both processors have 8 cores and 16 threads, so the core count does not differentiate them. The process node does: the Ryzen 7 170 is built on 6 nm, while the P164 uses 4 nm, both by TSMC. The die size is 210 mm² for the Ryzen 7 170 and 233 mm² for the P164. The socket differs as well, with the Ryzen 7 170 using AMD Socket FP7 and the P164 using AMD Socket FP8.

Cache configuration is another point of divergence. The Ryzen 7 170 has 64 KB of L1 per core and 512 KB of L2 per core, with 16 MB of shared L3. The P164 has 80 KB of L1 per core and 1 MB of L2 per core, but only 8 MB of L3. The larger per-core L1 and L2 on the P164 may compensate for its smaller L3 in certain workloads.

Memory support differs in both type and bandwidth. The Ryzen 7 170 supports DDR5 with 76.8 GB/s bandwidth. The P164 supports DDR5 and LPDDR5X with 89.6 GB/s bandwidth. Both use dual-channel memory buses, and both support ECC memory. PCIe connectivity also differs: the Ryzen 7 170 provides Gen 4 with 20 lanes, while the P164 provides Gen 4 with 16 lanes.

The integrated graphics differ, with the Ryzen 7 170 using the Radeon 680M and the P164 using the Radeon 880M. Neither processor has an unlocked multiplier. The Ryzen 7 170 has a recorded part number of 100-000000989, while the P164's part number is listed as unknown. The release dates differ as well, though the database records them without additional context.

Architecture Differences

The architecture gap between these two processors is substantial. The Ryzen 7 170 uses the Zen 3+ architecture, codenamed Rembrandt-R, and is listed as part of the Ryzen 7 generation. The Ryzen AI Embedded P164 uses a hybrid Zen 5 / Zen 5c design, codenamed Gorgon Point, and is part of the Ryzen AI Embedded generation. The architecture field for the P164 is not specified, but the generation label confirms the Zen 5 family.

The process node difference is significant: 6 nm for the Ryzen 7 170 versus 4 nm for the P164, both fabricated by TSMC. This newer node allows the P164 to achieve a higher boost clock of 5.00 GHz while maintaining a lower TDP of 28 watts, compared to the Ryzen 7 170's 4.75 GHz boost and 35 watt TDP. The die size difference, 210 mm² versus 233 mm², reflects the different architecture layouts and the inclusion of Zen 5c cores in the P164.

Cache architecture is a notable differentiator. The Ryzen 7 170 provides 64 KB of L1 per core and 512 KB of L2 per core, with 16 MB of shared L3. The P164 doubles the L2 to 1 MB per core and increases L1 to 80 KB per core, but reduces shared L3 to 8 MB. This suggests a design philosophy where the Zen 5 cores rely more on per-core resources and less on a large shared pool. The benchmark results, particularly the 20.1% advantage in random string sorting and the 19.4% advantage in floating point math, indicate that this configuration works well for the tested workloads.

The integrated graphics also reflect architectural progression. The Ryzen 7 170 uses the Radeon 680M, while the P164 uses the Radeon 880M. The P164's memory subsystem supports both DDR5 and LPDDR5X, while the Ryzen 7 170 is limited to DDR5. The P164's 89.6 GB/s memory bandwidth exceeds the Ryzen 7 170's 76.8 GB/s, which contributes to its advantage in memory-intensive tasks like data compression.

Both processors are listed as active in production and target the mobile market segment. Both support ECC memory, and neither has an unlocked multiplier. The Ryzen 7 170 provides more PCIe lanes at 20 versus 16, both Gen 4, which may matter for systems with multiple expansion devices. The P164's smaller PCIe allocation is offset by its superior compute and memory performance in the recorded benchmarks.